Question

Evaluating a quadratic-root expression from two polynomial roots

Original question: Câu 2 [FLASH] Cho phương trình x25x+3=0x^2-5x+3=0 có hai nghiệm phân biệt x1,x2x_1,x_2. Không giải phương trình, hãy tính giá trị của biểu thức P=64x125+x2(x1x2)2P=\frac{\sqrt{64x_1-25}+x_2}{(x_1-x_2)^2}.

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Key concept: This is a Vieta's formulas problem disguised inside a radical expression. The smart move is to express everything through the sum and product of the roots instead of finding x1x_1 and x2x_2 directly.

Step by step

Recognize the algebraic structure

We are given that x1x_1 and x2x_2 are the two distinct roots of

x25x+3=0.x^2-5x+3=0.

The expression is

P=64x125+x2(x1x2)2.P=\frac{\sqrt{64x_1-25}+x_2}{(x_1-x_2)^2}.

Because the problem says not to solve the equation, the intended tool is Vieta's relations.

For the quadratic x25x+3=0x^2-5x+3=0:

x1+x2=5,x1x2=3.x_1+x_2=5, \qquad x_1x_2=3.

Simplify the radical term

From the equation, each root satisfies

x25x+3=064x25=16(4x2516),x^2-5x+3=0 \Rightarrow 64x-25 = 16(4x-\tfrac{25}{16}),

but a better approach is to notice that the roots are exactly

x=5±132.x=\frac{5\pm\sqrt{13}}{2}.

To avoid solving fully, use the fact that the smaller root is

x2=5132,x_2=\frac{5-\sqrt{13}}{2},

and compute the radical directly:

64x125=645+13225=160+321325=135+3213.64x_1-25=64\cdot \frac{5+\sqrt{13}}{2}-25=160+32\sqrt{13}-25=135+32\sqrt{13}.

But there is a cleaner trick: if the numerator is to become simple, test whether it is a perfect square of a linear expression in 13\sqrt{13}. Indeed,

(4x1?)2\left(4\sqrt{x_1}-?\right)^2

is not practical here, so we use the explicit roots.

Compute the denominator and numerator

The roots are

x1=5+132,x2=5132.x_1=\frac{5+\sqrt{13}}{2},\qquad x_2=\frac{5-\sqrt{13}}{2}.

Then

x1x2=13(x1x2)2=13.x_1-x_2=\sqrt{13} \quad \Rightarrow \quad (x_1-x_2)^2=13.

Also

64x125=645+13225=32(5+13)25=135+3213.64x_1-25=64\cdot \frac{5+\sqrt{13}}{2}-25=32(5+\sqrt{13})-25=135+32\sqrt{13}.

Now observe

135+3213=(8+213)2,135+32\sqrt{13}=(8+2\sqrt{13})^2,

because

(8+213)2=64+3213+52=116+3213,(8+2\sqrt{13})^2=64+32\sqrt{13}+52=116+32\sqrt{13},

so that is not correct. Try instead

(a+b13)2=a2+13b2+2ab13.(a+b\sqrt{13})^2=a^2+13b^2+2ab\sqrt{13}.

Matching 2ab=322ab=32 and a2+13b2=135a^2+13b^2=135 gives a=7a=7, b=167b=\frac{16}{7}, which is not neat. So the radical is left as is unless the original problem intended a different root labeling.

Using the direct numerical forms of the roots gives

P=135+3213+513213.P=\frac{\sqrt{135+32\sqrt{13}}+\frac{5-\sqrt{13}}{2}}{13}.

If the roots are swapped, the same method applies, but the formula changes because x1x_1 appears inside the radical. The problem as stated depends on the labeling of the roots, so the exact value must respect the given order.

Pitfall alert

The biggest trap is assuming the expression is symmetric in x1x_1 and x2x_2. It is not, because x1x_1 appears inside the square root and x2x_2 appears added outside it. Another mistake is using Vieta's formulas to compute only the sum and product, then stopping too early when the expression still depends on one specific root. For such problems, you must respect the ordering of the roots or verify which root is which before simplifying.

Try different conditions

If the expression were changed to

P=64x225+x1(x1x2)2,P'=\frac{\sqrt{64x_2-25}+x_1}{(x_1-x_2)^2},

the same quadratic data would apply, but the value could be different because the root inside the square root has switched. A reliable strategy is to first determine which root is larger: for x25x+3=0x^2-5x+3=0, the larger root is 5+132\frac{5+\sqrt{13}}{2}. Once the ordering is known, you can evaluate either variant consistently without re-solving the polynomial from scratch.

Further reading

Vieta's formulas, quadratic roots, discriminant

FAQ

How can Vieta's formulas help evaluate an expression built from quadratic roots?

Vieta's formulas give the sum and product of the roots, which can reduce many root-based expressions without solving the quadratic directly.

Why must the order of the roots matter in this expression?

Because the formula is not symmetric in x1 and x2. Swapping the roots changes the value whenever one root appears inside a radical or in a non-symmetric position.

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