Question

Finding a Fibonacci recurrence for linear combinations of roots

Original question: If α,β\alpha,\beta are the roots of x2x1=0x^2-x-1=0 and Sn=2025αn2026βnS_n=2025\alpha^n-2026\beta^n then S10+S11.S_{10}+S_{11}.

My approach: By Newton's thm,

Sn=Sn1+Sn2Sn=S11+S10S_n=S_{n-1}+S_{n-2}\Rightarrow S_n=S_{11}+S_{10}.

S1=2025α2026β=2025(αβ)βS_1=2025\alpha-2026\beta=2025(\alpha-\beta)-\beta =20255β=2025\sqrt{5}-\beta [assuming α>β][\text{assuming }\alpha>\beta] =20255152=2025\sqrt{5}-\frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2} =4051512=\frac{4051\sqrt{5}-1}{2}

S2=2025α22026β2=2025(α2β2)β2S_2=2025\alpha^2-2026\beta^2=2025(\alpha^2-\beta^2)-\beta^2 =20255(35)=2025\sqrt{5}-(3-\sqrt{5}) =202653=2026\sqrt{5}-3

Now we’ve got this ugly recursion.

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Key concept: This problem uses a key fact about quadratic roots: any sequence built from their powers satisfies the same recurrence as the roots.

Step by step

Key idea

Let the roots of x2x1=0x^2-x-1=0 be α\alpha and β\beta. Since each root satisfies

r2=r+1,r^2=r+1,

any power sequence rnr^n obeys the Fibonacci recurrence

rn=rn1+rn2(n2).r^n=r^{n-1}+r^{n-2}\quad (n\ge 2).

So the sequence

Sn=2025αn2026βnS_n=2025\alpha^n-2026\beta^n

also satisfies

Sn=Sn1+Sn2.S_n=S_{n-1}+S_{n-2}.

That means the target quantity can be rewritten as

S10+S11=S12.S_{10}+S_{11}=S_{12}.

Find a cleaner closed form

Instead of computing many terms, use the special identities for the roots. From x2x1=0x^2-x-1=0, we have

α+β=1,αβ=1.\alpha+\beta=1,\qquad \alpha\beta=-1.

A very efficient way is to express SnS_n in terms of the standard sequences generated by αn\alpha^n and βn\beta^n. Let

Tn=αnβn.T_n=\alpha^n-\beta^n.

Then TnT_n also satisfies the same recurrence. We can write

Sn=2025(αnβn)βn=2025Tnβn,S_n=2025(\alpha^n-\beta^n)-\beta^n = 2025T_n-\beta^n,

but this is not yet the cleanest route.

A better observation is that the recurrence determines S12S_{12} from two initial values. Compute

S0=20252026=1,S_0=2025-2026=-1,

and

S1=2025α2026β=2025(αβ)β.S_1=2025\alpha-2026\beta=2025(\alpha-\beta)-\beta.

Since

αβ=5,β=152,\alpha-\beta=\sqrt{5},\qquad \beta=\frac{1-\sqrt5}{2},

we get

S1=20255152=4051512.S_1=2025\sqrt5-\frac{1-\sqrt5}{2}=\frac{4051\sqrt5-1}{2}.

Now use the recurrence repeatedly. The sequence follows the Fibonacci pattern:

Sn=Fn1S1+Fn2S0,S_n=F_{n-1}S_1+F_{n-2}S_0,

for n2n\ge 2, where F0=0,F1=1F_0=0,F_1=1. Thus

S12=F11S1+F10S0=89S1+55(1).S_{12}=F_{11}S_1+F_{10}S_0=89S_1+55(-1).

Substitute S1S_1:

=\frac{360539\sqrt5-89}{2}-55 =\frac{360539\sqrt5-199}{2}.$$ Therefore, $$\boxed{S_{10}+S_{11}=\frac{360539\sqrt5-199}{2}}.$$ ## Common recurrence shortcut Because $S_n=S_{n-1}+S_{n-2}$, you do not need to build $S_2,S_3,\dots$ one by one. Once you know $S_0$ and $S_1$, every later term is a Fibonacci-weighted combination of those two starting values. That is the fastest method for this type of problem. ### Pitfall alert A common mistake is to compute $S_1$ and $S_2$ in a messy way and then continue the recurrence by hand. That works, but it is easy to lose track of signs and coefficients. Another frequent error is forgetting that $S_{10}+S_{11}=S_{12}$ only because the sequence satisfies the Fibonacci recurrence; this identity does not hold for arbitrary sequences. Also, when using $\alpha-\beta=\sqrt5$, make sure the root ordering is consistent with $\alpha>\beta$, otherwise the sign flips and the final answer changes. ### Try different conditions If the problem instead asked for $S_{10}$ alone, the same method would still work: use $S_n=F_{n-1}S_1+F_{n-2}S_0$ and plug in $n=10$. If the recurrence were changed to $x^2-ax-b=0$, then the same idea would produce $S_n=aS_{n-1}+bS_{n-2}$, but the Fibonacci coefficients would be replaced by the corresponding characteristic-sequence coefficients. For example, with $S_n=2025\alpha^n-2026\beta^n$ and roots of $x^2-3x+1=0$, the same structural method applies, but the closed form and recurrence constants would differ. ### Further reading characteristic equation, Fibonacci recurrence, Vieta's formulas

FAQ

How do you find a recurrence for a sequence built from roots of a quadratic equation?

If the roots satisfy a quadratic like r^2=r+1, then each power r^n satisfies the same recurrence. Any linear combination of those powers also satisfies that recurrence, so the whole sequence follows a Fibonacci-type rule.

What is the fastest way to evaluate the sum of two consecutive terms in this sequence?

Use the recurrence S_n=S_{n-1}+S_{n-2}. Then S_{10}+S_{11}=S_{12}, and compute that term from the initial values with Fibonacci-weighted coefficients rather than listing many terms.

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